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WoW Forever Rogue

Assassination, Combat, Subtlety · Alliance and Horde

Rogue follows the same pattern as Warrior: the four weapon specialisation talents are gone and Hack and Slash grants a benefit per weapon type. In Classic that decision locked you into swords or daggers for a whole phase. In Forever the same build works with whatever weapon drops.

Specs simmed
3
New spells
2
New talents
3
Removed
4
Playable races
8

What changes for Rogue

Mutilate arrives as a baseline builder for Assassination and Venom is a new poison. Cutthroat gives Subtlety an Ambush proc during the fight, and Restless Blades lets Combat shorten Adrenaline Rush and Blade Flurry by spending combo points.

The Skyborne can be Rogues on either faction, and Expertise replaces weapon skill for the behind-the-boss dodge problem.

Specs

  • Assassination RogueDPS

    Mutilate is a new dagger builder and Venom a new poison, so Assassination does more with poisons than Instant Poison procs.

  • Combat RogueDPS

    Restless Blades reduces long cooldowns, and Hack and Slash folds the four weapon specialisations into one talent.

  • Subtlety RogueDPS

    Cutthroat gives Ambush a proc so the stealth tree can keep dealing damage after the opener.

Simmed reference builds

Each saved board sims a fixed Rogue reference character at level 60, against a raid-boss target for two minutes, full raid buffs and consumables, no world buffs. The DPS is the spec's trinket board baseline (both trinket slots empty) and the rank is its place on the Forever DPS tier list.

  • Assassination Rogue · Mutilate build565dps

    30/21/0 talents · Curated dungeon and crafted gear · Undead · #15 of 23 DPS specs

    Trinket boardSim your own Rogue
    Show talents
    Talents 30/21/0View tree

    Assassination 30

    • Malice 5/5
    • Ruthlessness 3/3
    • Improved Slice and Dice 3/3
    • Relentless Strikes 1/1
    • Lethality 5/5
    • Vile Poisons 5/5
    • Cold Blood 1/1
    • Improved Poisons 1/5
    • Mutilate 1/1
    • Seal Fate 5/5

    Combat 21

    • Improved Eviscerate 3/3
    • Lightning Reflexes 2/5
    • Puncturing Wounds 3/3
    • Precision 3/3
    • Endurance 2/2
    • Improved Sprint 2/2
    • Flawless Execution 1/1
    • Dual Wield Specialization 4/5
    • Hack and Slash 1/5

    Subtlety 0

    No points

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  • Combat Rogue616dps

    #7 of 23 DPS specs

    Trinket boardSim your own Rogue
  • Subtlety Rogue541dps

    #17 of 23 DPS specs

    Trinket boardSim your own Rogue

Engine build 931ae38, simmed 1 October 2026. Boards are re-simmed after engine updates.

Reference builds are a work in progress and will keep improving through the beta (see the changelog). Got a build you want simmed? Post it in the MythicSim Discord and we'll sim it. Any feedback is much appreciated.

New spells and talents

New spells

  • Mutilate
  • Venom

New talents

  • Hack and Slash
  • Cutthroat
  • Restless Blades

Removed

  • Dagger Specialization
  • Mace Specialization
  • Sword Specialization
  • Fist Weapon Specialization

From the BlizzCon 2026 demo build via the community talent calculators. Beta will change some of this; the page is updated as it does.

Races

  • Human
  • Dwarf
  • Night Elf
  • Gnome
  • Orc
  • Undead
  • Troll
  • SkyborneNew

Human, Dwarf, Night Elf, Gnome, Orc, Undead, Troll, Skyborne. The Skyborne can be Rogues on either faction. Racials are rebuilt so no two races share a passive, and weapon skill racials are gone. Race choice now changes your DPS in the sim.

Rogue race tier list

What the Rogue sim has to model

Beyond the engine-wide changes (unified hit and crit, Expertise, bonus healing as spell damage, periodic crits), these are the Rogue-specific pieces the Forever engine has to get right.

  • A Mutilate builder with Venom interaction for Assassination.
  • Restless Blades cooldown reduction per finisher for Combat.
  • Hack and Slash as a single weapon-agnostic proc, with Expertise instead of weapon skill.

Rogue trinket boards

One board per spec, ranking every trinket a Rogue can equip at 60 by simmed DPS gain, with where each one drops.

Other Forever classes

Common questions

Is there a WoW Forever Rogue sim?

Yes, at /wow-forever/sim. Export your character with the MythicSim addon, paste it and you get a DPS number for your Rogue on the new talent trees. It runs on a MythicSim-maintained fork of ElliotWood/Forever, built on wowsims/classic (both MIT licensed).

What new spells does Rogue get in WoW Forever?

Mutilate, Venom. New talents include Hack and Slash, Cutthroat, Restless Blades.

Which races can be a Rogue in WoW Forever?

Rogue can be played by Human, Dwarf, Night Elf, Gnome, Orc, Undead, Troll, Skyborne in World of Warcraft: Forever. The new Skyborne race can be a Rogue on either faction.

What are the Rogue specs in WoW Forever?

Assassination (DPS), Combat (DPS), Subtlety (DPS). Forever keeps the three Classic trees for every class and reworks their contents; there are no new specs.

Do I need a /simc string to sim a Forever Rogue?

No. Install MythicSim addon 0.3.0 or newer in Forever, click its minimap button or type /msim, then paste the JSON on the Forever sim page. Retail /simc strings use a different format.